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September 9th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
I fully admit to many disappointments in President Obama, but you are right, Steve, he gave a magnificent speech and put the Rethuglicant’s in their place. They will try to spin it, of course, but Obama showed his better nature and the reason we Progressives worked and voted for him. I have a bit of hope, again.
Did you see how crass the Rethuglicant’s looked and acted?! They sat there on their thumbs, pouting, glaring, and looking like the total asses that they are. So glum. So dumb. And that idiot from some Southern state, yelling “Liar!” at the President!!!Didnt his mama ever teach him any manners? He is the poster boy for the Rethugs: A Rude, crude and uncultured Big Mouth, Small Brain. In fact, HE was the one that was lying. There are NO monies designated in Obama’s health care reform for illegal immigrants. Zip. Nada. None. If that guy’s foot went any deeper in his mouth, it would come out of his butt. Sheesh…..
September 10th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Yes! It was a great speech.
The GOP looked like idiots sitting there pouting about the chance to give Americans piece of mind and equality. I tried to go give Rep. wilson a piece of my mind but his website is unavailable, due to high traffic. I read that his 2010 opponent has raised $100,000 overnight. Love it.
And how about the “man tan”? He was the poster boy for the GOP, clueless and angry, sitting on their hands and refusing to even entertain the notion of working for the people they claim to represent. Obama scolded them pretty good and they looked like children who had been caught pulling the wings off flies. No doubt that they will continue to lie and hate but Americans who truly care about their country saw them failing to understand and refusing to help their country. We saw and understood that their own political futures are so much more important to them than the lives and well-being of their constituents. We saw the disrespect they have for President Obama and the callousness they feel toward the sick and poor. These family values, flag-waving, lobbyist-controlled morons showed more than their hypocrisy, they showed their contempt for anyone in America who dares get sick or ask for a fair shake. When the president told them they wouldn’t be allowed the kick that can down the road, they were confused. That’s all they know how to do. They will now be forced to throw rocks at the guys trying to pick up that old, dented can and make it useful again. They will look even more out of touch and heartless. Good for you, Mr. President!
September 10th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
It was a passionate enough speech, I’ll give you that. It had all the rah rah ree that we’ve been thirsting for, however, part of his speech dealt with the Reichwingers crazy ideas and outright lies. He went in to great detail about how he wasn’t going to abide by that, etc. But when Wilson shouted out “you lie” the prez did nothing except look sternly in Wilson’s direction. Now I know that there was general booing of W, but I also know that when anyone interrupted or was in anyway disrepectful of W they were detained for a bit and taken to task one way or another. Wilson was not only disrespectful of the prez, he was disrespectful of the congressional forum – and what did Obama do? Nothing, absolutely nothing. A stern look does what? He’ll not stand for the misinformation to continue, but he won’t say ‘OK Mr. Wilson let’s start with you.’ I was really hoping for more of a Barney Frank approach myself. Feed the teabaggers their own kool-aid and watch them wilt. No such luck…
September 10th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
concerned
I see your point but I’m also glad that we don’t see knee-jerk reactions from the president. He could have been a lot more specific about the lies and the liars but his strong suit is not confrontation. He really is no-drama. When you are a passionate person, it’s hard not to get frustrated with his calm and deference to even the most crazed and racist in the room. That’s who he is and maybe right now when the emotions have suppressed the intellect in our country, we need a steady guy. Pelosi should take Wilson to task for his indecent behavior. I’m sure there are perks in the House he will no longer enjoy. His opponent is raising lots of money, his website is down and he has had to apologize. I’m not saying he’ll learn anything from this or that he won’t take great comfort from the words of the limpballs of the world but being a hero to the lunatic fringe is hardly a resume for greater things. I think the GOP has just given President Obama the high road because it was unfamiliar terrain for them anyway. I hope it leaves them singing the low-road, low-rent, low-down blues.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
It is interesting that both sides are against “socialized medicine”; both sides are for militarism, and the military has socialized medical care. The military is, in fact, dictatorial socialism.
Seems a bit ironic to me.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
It was a great speech but I hope he doesn’t go all “wobbly in the knees” on us when the going gets tough…..He needs to play hardball politics with his own party first and don’t even worry about the Republicans….bipartisanship is WAYYYYYYYYY OVERRATED!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:29 am
hizzhoner
Good to see you.
And yes, bipartisanship is a laugh these days. It just doesn’t exist but President Obama asking for it anyway is important. No one can say he didn’t reach across the aisle and everyone can see the GOP recoiling or lashing out at him when he does. The only thing they have to offer the citizens they represent these days is hypocrisy to be taken with a long drink of white-hot anger. Their kool-aid has always been dangerous but now it’s lethal to Democracy.
Wait until Roberts and his activist cohorts succeed in endowing corporations with more rights than American voters. Roberts is going to hold our mouths open while Alito and Thomas pour that new acid-flavored concoction down our throats. Congress will become a wholly-owned subsidiary of Big Corp America.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Always, I appreciate it that you were trying to be, well, hopeful, in your rebuttal. I would only say that I wasn’t calling for much of a knee jerk, more like a “see that is exactly what I’m talking about” approach. The prez had just said he was gonna call us out if we kept up the lies. The lie got shouted out and then – nothing? To continue on as if nothing untoward happened was “nice,” but really at this point are we looking for nice? Of course since Obama was distorting his side just a tad if we take into account the CBO’s overview of the bill, maybe he was afraid of getting a shout out at the wrong time.
From your rebuttal to Hizzhoner, it appears you’re not quite so hopeful when it comes to court ordered fascism. If the pundits in attendence at the hearing are any indication, we’ll soon have a very long row to hoe. A “wrong” decision on ‘Citizens’ will no doubt change everything about amerika as we once knew her. Everything.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
It was an excellent speech. Now all that’s needed is for students and parents follow through.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:27 am
concerned
You’re right, knee-jerk was not the right word. It would have been great for him to point out Joe W as an example of incivility but who knows, that may have prompted an all-out screamfest from the right side of the chamber.
And thanks for tactfully and cleverly calling me hopeful, Chuck says I’m naive, which may be more accurate. I try to be positive and hopeful because I hate cynicism, it’s so damn unless and paralyizing. But when it comes to enormous decisions like the one the SC is making now, I feel helpless and frustrated and yes, cynical.
So, concerned, when I say something that needs correcting or is convoluted and knee-jerk, by all means call me out. I love to learn and have learned much from the posts of Cafe regulars over the years. We make each other more thoughtful and much wiser.
Hey, everyone, isn’t it nice to hear from hizzhoner again? Now, where the heck are Again, Iowa, Sirloin, Julie, Mike, vetta and others (who shall remain nameless because I can’t remember their names at this moment), but I miss their input.
And, Steve, I really miss the three wise men. hint, hint.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Hope I don’t think you’re naive. If I ever said it I apologize.